What about the third and most important group? The ones that disagree with the leadership, yet still believe in the organization and seek to embellish it?
The leaders "are nothing without us and we are lost without them". So true. May Allah (swt) grant us the strength and knowledge to lead and to be led. Ameen!on March 11, 2004 11:41 AM
Wajahat, because they believe in the organization, what it is they disagree about is only so that they can further that Greater Good. Hence, I count them among the Blind.on March 11, 2004 11:21 PM
Very well written piece Mashaa Allah.
Are there not also those who agree with the leadership, believe in the organization, and seek to embellish it? They too are working for the "Greater Good." Where would such people fall into these examples? Why need there be a case of disagreement in each of these scenarios? It does seem awkward to only have one mindset about this Greater Good. Greater Good is usually determined on a situational basis. What type of situation the leadership is facing at the time will often determine the Greater Good of two or more potential options Wallahu 'Alam.
This is the first time that I have posted something on Hidaya. Interesting work that everyone is doing here. :) Nasihah (no pun intended) to everyone (if I may give a tad of very humble Nasihah)- use this to promote the "Greater Good", which often stems from wisdom and reason. I know the site has been up for a while and I have been checking now and then, but this can be invaluable to our RU Muslim community if we just always remember to promote good things and reflect on our words before they are spoken (or written) Inshaa Allah. I say this for myself first and foremost. Jazakum Allahu Khayrun.
And sorry about all the rhetorical questions :). I'm like Talal sometimes, I can go on forever once I get a pen in my hand and a paper on my desk (or in this case a keyboard and a monitor :).
Wassalam Alaykum Wa Rahmat Allahee Wa Barakatu.
-Your Brother Sami E.on March 12, 2004 4:25 AM
"And sorry about all the rhetorical questions :). I'm like Talal sometimes, I can go on forever once I get a pen in my hand and a paper on my desk (or in this case a keyboard and a monitor :). "
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Whoa. I'll get back to you in a month on this one. Insha Allah by then I would have untied all the meaning from the imagery. Alhamdulillah.
In the meantime, can you feed by brain for a second and elaborate on this a bit. Just a brief explanation please insha Allah:
"The Glitter possess a certain jeu non c'est qoi a certain characteristic that would make the cause of the leadership to shine for that audience which the leadership feels they are hopeless to influence. The characteristic varies according to the social framework of the community; it could be wealth, nationality, popularity, beauty, their strength in numbers, etc"
Salaamson March 12, 2004 2:33 PM
"The Glitter possess a certain jeu non c'est qoi a certain characteristic..."
that's "je ne sais quoi."on March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
but why do you choose the word "blind" to define those that work to better the organization?
Merci beacoup mon frere. My french could use more than a little clean-up.
Wajahat, Rami, and Sami,
Here's the deal with this column. Twice in the last month, in incidents completely unrelated to each other, I witnessed a lack of usool in the actions of the leadership of two different groups. I would even go as far as saying that there was a downright lack of etiquette involved. In both situations, the leadership literally caused a DRAMA just because they didn't follow the most just procedure.
Why the Blind for those who seek to embellish an organization?
Because as soon as these two things happened, my brain somehow got caught under the spell of Surah 'Abasa :)
The Blind old man, who was sincerely seeking knowledge, compared to the wealth and influence of the Quraish, to put it very simply.
And I admittedly wrote this in a state of weariness, so if it doesn't make sense, there's good reason for that: The writing sucks.
on March 12, 2004 7:04 PM
hey br. Talal.... I think theres a problem with the word Blind because it commonly has a negative conotation i.e. Dumb, Deaf, and Blind. But I like how you linked it to the Blind man from surah Abasa.
There are hadith about Listening and Obeying to those who have authority over you (as long as they are within the bounds of the shariah)..
This book was originally entitled: Hidiyat :) check out the chapter on Sama'a and Ta'at (Listening and Obeying).
I think this is a basic principle that anyone working in a collective effort needs to have another important book is:
The Ethics of Disagreement in Islam by Taha Jabir al 'Alwani which is available at:
Keep up the good work. Mashallah you gus are doing great.
yo why you guys trying to mess up his idea. Only two types can work with the ayas in Surah Abasa.
Blind doesnt necessarily mean one who blindly follows, it means the one who does good, and is striving for good for himself and the good of the organization (too many for's). Anybody else would be caragorized in the other group.
I like the metaphor Br. Talal. Keep up the good work, and always remember that "I got yo back, kid" ;)
S@!@MZon March 17, 2004 11:05 AM
oh yeah and by the way Br. Azeem, you are not supposed toi blind follow the leadership; thats what the christians and Jews did: "took their priests and rabis gods beside Allah"; (interesting sidenote on how people go FATWA HUNTING-Im goin to find me a ftwa that fits me, even if some people say it is wrong, im going with a SCHOLAR. iF HE SAID IT AND i FOLLOW HIM, THE wrong is upon him, and not me!)
Followers should know the reasons leadership is going with a decisionand thats how they would agree or disagree; "say give me your proof if you are indeed truthful".
Just a little insight, Im sorry if I have offended anybody by my speech; iF I have, I seek forgiveness from him and Allah (SWT).
To add to Amr's comments, when putting your trust in scholars be confident in their education, question what they've learned, where they've learned and from whom they've learned. Traditionally, the "whom" makes all the difference in the world.