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July 28, 2005
Abdullah's Sectarian Radar is Thrown for a Loop...

by Gillette aka Hassan[uddin] Khaja

A special edition of Hidaya
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Justoju said

funny he doesnt have a beard...

on July 28, 2005 3:58 PM
humayun said

LOL! Why is there a big cross in the middle of his shirt?

on July 28, 2005 4:28 PM
Humayun said

Silly me.... thats the radar thingy...

on July 28, 2005 4:28 PM
Ayan said

the shirt is on backwards, that is why no beard, he is bald too.
I know what he is .....
he's a Qutubi
just kidding,
really,

on July 28, 2005 5:23 PM
Ayan said

He looks like he has a iron hook for a hand like Captain Cook, he is Captain Cook turned Muslim.

on July 28, 2005 5:24 PM
ManBeast said

I don't like him...he's wearing pants...he must be a modernist...our people wear shalwars and lungis. GOOOOOOO OUR KIND!!!!!!

on July 28, 2005 9:44 PM
saleem said

this made me smile. i must be a wahhabi. or maybe ahl-e-hadith. haha. (only i get that)

on July 28, 2005 10:40 PM
tazkiyah said

assalamu alikum,

I'm new to this site, so I must say that you all are quite the imaginative crew and your articles are thought provoking. That robotic image is hilarious. What provided the impetus here? Whose been to the rihla program. I'd like to here people's thoughts on their experience.

...captain hook turned Muslim? SubhanAllah we have high hopes that even captain hook might convert. Wonder if you should make that image whirl like a dervish.

wasalam alikum

on July 29, 2005 12:43 AM
Ahmad Bilal Ar-rumi said

Wai lul lil 'Assraaniyeen
wai lul lil Murtaddeen
Wai lul lil Munafiqeen
We ask Allah 2 free our great shuyookh Nasir Al Fahd, Abu Muhammad Al Maqdisi and to free all muslim prisoners.
We ask Allah to destroy the enemies of our deen,
to destroy them like the people of thamud,'ad an lut.

on July 29, 2005 11:51 AM
Justoju (Valley Girl Radar) said

OH MY GOD, I dont like his shoes. I dont care what he is, he totally has like bad taste. Tell him to not breathe in my air. I bet he still like watches 'Saved By the Bell' or something. Like ewwww, look at how he is staring at me. He totally wants to marry me...GRROOOSSSS!

I am definitely NEVER going to marry him.

on July 29, 2005 1:02 PM
Ayan said

nice try

on July 29, 2005 4:51 PM
Anonymous said


Forgive me for my lack of intelligence, but I seem to have missed what exactly was the intent of this piece. Who is being criticized? What is the artist's message?

Please shed some light, Br. Gillette.

on July 29, 2005 7:18 PM
Faisal Akhtar said

I know I know, he is ... ummm ... he is...ah ...

a SALUFI

No wait wait... he looks more like... umm...

a WAHABANDI

No no, he might be...

a BHASHARI

That's not it either.. He looks somehat like a ...

a SHIANI

ummmmmmmm.............. I'll get it eventually...

on July 29, 2005 7:33 PM
Justoju said

I think the point of the piece was to cast criticism on most muslims' habit of labelling and pre-judging one another. The focus of the piece is the sectarian radar...not the man within its scope.

(btw, the reason I broke out with the Valley Girl radar comment was because EVERYONE has a radar with which they judge others...they just look for different things is all.)

on July 29, 2005 9:09 PM
Justoju said

Side comment: If we spent half the time focusing our radars on ourselves that we spend focusing on other Muslims, I swear we'd be like wali'Allahs or something...its a disease...people who busy themselves with reforming and rectifying themselves have neither time nor concern for the analysis and disdain for other Muslims.

on July 29, 2005 9:17 PM
Anonymous #2 said

I agree- we should focus on ourselves rather then wonder about the worlds sectarian beliefs.

I don't like this piece at all. It should be removed; who are you judge those that attend the Rihla for example? Or those that follow the Sunnah and are still labeled. SubhanAllah, check yourself (and this is a reminder for myself first and foremost)

on July 29, 2005 11:42 PM
Irfan said

Assalamu-Alaikum,

Woah woah...no need to get all serious. Br. Gilette I think this was hilarious and insightful. You can purchase a radar descrambler online for about 150 dollars. lol. I give this a totall G.I. 5-7. and by the way, all the clothing has been tailored by KISWAH FASHIONS.

-

on July 29, 2005 11:50 PM
Rami said

Asalaam Aleikum Warahmatullah Wabarkatu,

There is one distinct problem with sectarianism:
They cannot all be right.

As I told a non-Muslims friend of mine a long time ago (who was catholic, then atheist, then agnostic, and now has gotten as far as believing that God is truly One and Almighty, but not accepting Islam):

'Either one religion is right, or we are all wrong. And none of us will know the answer till the day of Judgment, when it is too late. So one had better make sure that they are truly choosing the right religion'

But what about in the case of sects (or zumar, in arabic)? If the practices of one sect are said to lead its followers into Jannah, that logically means that all other ways cannot. Therefore either one is right, or all are wrong.

As far as the practices of a sect rather than the sect itself: Since Islam is a religion of universality, everyone would have to practice the teachings of that sect to be on the right path. Anything which applies only to a certain people and doesn't apply univerally is known as Gnosticism. Aka, a cult. (Gnosticism, meaning "with knowledge" in latin, means that only certain people possess a knowledge and this knowledge cannot be passed on to everyone). Remember the "Heaven's Gate" people (who committed mass suicide) and the David Koresh cult in Waco.

Sects, by their very nature, are not applicable to everyone. Whether they be too rigid to be applicable universally or they be too unique (too innovative) in their practices...they do not promote a religon of UNIVERSALITY. And Islam is the religion for Mankind and Jinn.

We are cautioned by our Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) about these sects. Even thought there may be some good in them, because they do not apply as a whole, then they cannot be acceptable as being truly Islamic.


Volume 9, Book 88, Number 206:

Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman:

The people used to ask Allah's Apostle about the good but I used to ask him about the evil lest I should be overtaken by them. So I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We were living in ignorance and in an (extremely) worst atmosphere, then Allah brought to us this good (i.e., Islam); will there be any evil after this good?" He said, "Yes." I said, 'Will there be any good after that evil?" He replied, "Yes, but it will be tainted (not pure.)'' I asked, "What will be its taint?" He replied, "(There will be) some people who will guide others not according to my tradition? You will approve of some of their deeds and disapprove of some others." I asked, "Will there be any evil after that good?" He replied, "Yes, (there will be) some people calling at the gates of the (Hell) Fire, and whoever will respond to their call, will be thrown by them into the (Hell) Fire." I said, "O Allah s Apostle! Will you describe them to us?" He said, "They will be from our own people and will speak our language." I said, "What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?" He said, "Stick to the group of Muslims and their Imam (ruler)." I said, "If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an Imam (ruler)?" He said, "Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state."

on August 4, 2005 1:04 PM
Justoju said

"Stick to the group of Muslims and their Imam (ruler)."

Great post by br. Rami. I think just one thing needs to be added for the sake of clarification:
The difference between a sect and a school of thought.

A sect says: I am Muslim and my way is the only understanding of 'authentic' sunnah. If you are not part of our group then you are not Muslim, and therefore you are not due the rights of a fellow Muslim.

A school of thought says: I am Muslim. You are Muslim. You are entitled to the rights of a fellow Muslim even if you arent part of this school.

Even the earliest of Muslims (who were MUCH closer to the Rasool's time and experienced a greater purity of Islam) differed in their understanding of what the sunnah was. This kind of difference is natural and understandable. Sects, however, should be avoided at all costs because they are based on a principle of division and separation. They are a huge threat to the unity of this Ummah. There can be different interpretations and groups WITHIN Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'h as long as they all consider each other to be Muslim and strive to give each other the rights that Islam has entitled them to...

May Allah (SWT) pardon us our sins, and cause us to walk the path of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'h and be of those who He is Pleased with. InshaAllah and Amin.

on August 4, 2005 3:34 PM
Asef said

Salaam:

Great Great Great Point!!!!

sect vs school....


hmmm...two individuals talking about a glass of water, one says that the glass is half full while the other says its half empty.

So far they both can tolerate each other views, but then a kid comes running and knocks the glass off the table and the water is spilled off the glass. Now both look at each other and agree that the glass is now empty as the water is spilled off.

Just about the same time, a third individual comes around and observes these two sitting with a spilled glass infront of them, and asks which one of the two had dropped the glass on carpet?

The first one says none of us has done this. The new comer than looks at the 2nd individual and asks if he was the culprit. Out of courtesy (or some reason) the 2nd one keeps silent. However, the 1st one chimes in and says he did not do this of what you claim, and further adds that a kid came and knocked it on the carpet.

The 3rd man then gets angry and says to the first man that he is lying and covering up the facts of who had spilled the glass. He then continues on to say that its probably your friend #2 here who has spilled the glass and is quiet for he doesn't want to admit....

The first two individuals were like two different schools of thoughts and they had their own understanding of the same fact (and both were equally right).

The third individual (who came later) his opinions are like that of a sect which challeneged the information provided to him by the other two. This 3rd individual based his judgement (about the other two) solely on what he observed, without taking into consideration any inputs of events that happenend before his arrival. For him, both were equally liers and his mind was concluded on this!

Allahu Aalim

on August 4, 2005 8:44 PM
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